
GEORGE LUCAS
INTERVIEW:
October 17,
2004
By Sean
Carless
A lot of people don’t know this, but I’m actually
a HUGE fan of Star Wars. And hey, I know what you’re thinking:
“Star Wars AND Wrestling?”. I know, I know, it is a
wonder I’ve ever been laid. And it's even a bigger wonder I
ever had the patience to inflate her
first.
Anyway, call it nostalgia if you want, but from
the first time I saw this saga, I was hooked. This franchise
just has a way of capturing your imagination. And a good
portion of your money. But hey, sometimes you just gotsta have
a giant Darth Vader helmet shaped carrying case, just because.
What can I say. The funny thing about Star Wars though is that
it's very polarizing. You either love it or you don’t. And if
you’re not sure just which category you fall into, answer me
this: If at any point of your adult life you’ve ever simulated
the sound effect of a lightsaber, EVER, it means you’re a
slave to George Lucas and you might as well admit
it.
With that said, I recently purchased the much
ballyhooed DVD release of the original trilogy, if only to see
for myself "the changes" that so many of the hardcore fans
complained about. And now that I have, I can’t say that I’m so
much bothered by it, but instead, that I still have some
unanswered questions. Looming questions, that many of the
hardcore fans still wonder about. Questions like, when did
Padme really die? Why does the unmasked Darth Vader in Return
of the Jedi look so old when he couldn’t be any older than 45?
And why does 2/3rd of their known universe all seem to have
fucking thick British
accents?
Luckily for me though, in a TWF first, and last,
likely, I actually managed to track down famed
director/producer George Lucas and conducted the following
*Exclusive* interview at his sprawling Skywalker Ranch to
hopefully get to the bottom of a few of my queries! But not
before he elevated me with the awesome power of the force
alone, and spiritually lifted my wallet from my pants
pocket.
SC=
Sean Carless. GL= George
Lucas.
SC: Hello, Mr.
Lucas.
GL: Hey
there.
SC: First, I have to
say that I really enjoyed the Original Trilogy re-release on
DVD.
GL: Well, you’ll have
to forget all about
that.
SC: Pardon
me?
GL: Well, it’s not the
movie I wanted to
release.
SC: What do you
mean?
GL: We’ve been working
on a new special, special edition. I’ll be
re-re-re-releasing the REAL O.T. as I’ve always wanted
it made, very
soon…
SC: Then why did
you release this
version?
GL: CHA-CHING! (laughs
to
himself)
SC:
…
SC: Okay, just for
curiosity sake, how is this version different than
the version you *ahem* just
released?
GL: Well, I want
to say that it's better than the earlier ones. I mean,
I guess, it's more, if you know what I mean. But
better? I mean, who's to say what’s better? But it is
definitely more. You should definitely buy it. You
know?
SC: That made
absolutely no
sense.
GL: Which
part?
SC:
Arghhh.
SC: Okay, why don't
you tell us what is DIFFERENT in this "new" re-mastered
version?
GL:
Oh, Just about everything. First of all, we’ve replaced the
Darth Vader template with…James Earl Jones. Heck, we figured,
we spent all this fucking money on just his voice alone,
so why not just have him be
Vader?
SC: You can’t be
serious. But Luke Skywalker is white? How could Vader be
black?
GL: Well, Padme was
really pale…..
SC:
Huh?
GL: Come on. It doesn't
have to make sense. I mean, no one complained that it
only took Luke like maybe a year to become a Jedi Master, when
he was pretty much trained only by a ghost, but it took
his old man and like every other Jedi
fucking 20 years+.
SC: No, actually,
everyone
complained.
GL: (while waving his
hand in my face) THESE ARE NOT THE PLOT-HOLES YOU'RE LOOKING
FOR.
SC: What's going
on?
GL: Umm,
Nothing.
SC: Forget it. We’ll
move on. One thing I always wondered and never quite
understood was, why did Vader look so old when he was
unmasked in Return of the
Jedi?
GL: Because the actor
who played him was 80 years old. Jesus. A real Brain surgeon
over
here.
SC: NO, you don’t
understand, I
meant….
GL: Funny thing. Turns
out Sebastian Shaw (the actor who played Vader) is dead and
thus I couldn't use him again. It’s a shame, too, because I
really wanted him for this. And not just because
corpses are kind of ideal at one-take scenes, and don't
put up any arguments when you tell them "that was good enough,
who cares about the fucking acting and the dialog. Did
you see that Speeder bike? Boy was that fast!"... even though,
that's kind of the main reason. However, apparently,
using a corpse is against S.A.G. regulations or
something. I don't see why not. We had the Jabba
wranglers all ready to maneuver him and everything. I mean,
really, it couldn't look any fucking faker than the Cantina
band.
SC: Is there a point to
all this?
GL: Sure. Because
of all that, I needed an old dude for the
re-shot climax, fast, and well, I’m sure the fans will be
excited when they finally see "Blue" on the
screen.
SC: Oh My God, you
don’t
mean….
GL: He’s my boy! Hehe.
I loved that
movie.
SC:
…
SC: But how is that
even possible? He’s about a hundred years old, isn’t
he?
GL: Age means nothing
when you’re strong with the force. Look at Yoda. But not too
close. It's probably best you forget he looked more like a
giant green testicle in Ep. 1, than the Yoda you
remember.
SC: Uh, ya. Anyway,
keeping with this topic, how is it that Palpatine/Sidious
looks so young in the prequels and so ravaged in the original
Trilogy? Does he age as he becomes more permeated in the
darkside? Or is it something else? I had this theory that
Palpatine was using a clone in the senate all this time, am I
right?
GL:
Maybeline.
SC: Pardon
me?
GL: He also exfoliates
a lot.
SC: What the hell are
you talking
about?
GL: The Emperor was always ashamed of his
complexion. He had a bad case of adult acne and it destroyed
his self esteem. It probably is what drove him to the darkside
in the first place. Yes! I like it! I HAVE to write this
shit down, excuse
me….
…As I was saying, as he gained more power, he just
said fuck it, you know? I’m the most powerful man in the
universe, and if the ladies don’t like it they can go
straight to Mustafar. Heheh. You know, on the
account that Hell and Mustafar are so similar because of the
fire and
heat.
SC: Ya, I get it. You
didn't need to explain it in
mind-numbing detail.
GL: Good. I promise
I'll never do anything that makes sense
again. Ever.
SC: Wait, I didn't
mean...
GL: Too late!
Haha.
SC:
Arggh. Moving on. What other differences can we expect in
this, umm, re-re-re-release?
GL: It comes in
a big shiny
package!
SC: Who cares about
that?
GL: You do. (Waves his
hand again in my
face)
SC: What are you
doing?
GL: Umm, making you
realize the error of your ways by way of mind manipulation via
the living Force?
Maybe?
SC: Heh. Why stop
there? Why not just choke me out with the Force choke,
then?
GL: Oh, some on.
Seriously.That's just make-believe.
Idiot.
SC: Oh, dear god. Well,
is there anything else different? Something actually worth
changing?
GL: Well, the droids
are somewhat different. We didn’t want to tinker with
them too much, but you’ll notice a
difference.
SC: How
so?
GL: Well, first of all,
R2D2 has been replaced…with a Shop
Vac.
SC: What the
hell?
GL: Well, it made a lot of sense. In
addition to being a lot cheaper, it was VERY practical. While
the original was manned by a midget, and had a host of
production people making its every move, The Shop Vac just had
to be wheeled onto set. Plus it has like four different nozzle
attachments! And a wet feature! It came in very
handy!
SC: I’m almost afraid
to ask, but how so?
GL: Well, Carrie Fisher
is quite the little drinker you know, and on a few occasions,
let's just say she made a "mess" of the soundstage, and well,
with R2 on hand we can clean up just about anything one of her
insane benders leave behind! That fucking
whore!
SC: Damn, George,
I'm starting to see a serious darkside to you
here.
GL: You mean, in
the spiritual sense that I'll be corrupted and turned evil to
the bewilderment of my fellow
knights?
SC: No, I mean in the
sense that you're an
asshole.
GL: Fair
enough.
SC: Um, Okay… moving
on...again.. Well, what of C-3PO? Any changes
there?
GL: No change. Well,
not physically
anyway.
SC: What do you
mean?
GL: Well, mentally,
C-3PO is going to find his true "self" and finally explore his
burgeoning homosexual feelings for
R2.
SC: Say what
now?
GL: Oh, you didn’t
know? C3PO is quite the galactic pillow biter. He speaks
a billion languages except one..the language of LOVE. We hope
to remedy
this.
SC: Oh my God. This
keeps getting
worse....
SC: Okay, what about
the puppets in the movie? Have you altered them in any way, or
have you changed them to straight
CGI?
GL: Neither. We’ve
replaced all the puppets with real people. For example, we’ve
decided to completely edit out the cantina band and replace
them with Morris Day and The Time. We didn’t even need to pay
them. And Morris doesn't even need make-up! It worked out
brilliantly. But the music was a little tough to take at
times. I mean, what, do they play like just one song or what?
What a bunch of
hacks.
SC: But, umm, George,
so do that Cantina band. They had like 9 years to learn a new
fucking song, and they're still playing that same
irritating jingle in Jabba's
palace.
GL: I have no idea what
you're on
about.
SC: *Sigh* Ok,
forget it. … back to the main point...No puppets at all
then? What about Jabba The Hutt, surely he couldn’t be
replaced?
GL: You mean
"she".
SC:
What?
GL: That's right, and
the answer is "yes", she was replaced. You ever watch The
View?
SC: Umm, I've seen
it….
GL: Well, then you're
familiar with Star
Jones.
SC:
What?!
GL: Yes, Star fit the
bill nicely. She had similar proportions to Jabba, and didn't
even mind eating slugs out of Mason jars… well, providing
they were cooked in butter
first…..
SC:
Why?!
GL: Well, originally,
we were going to use Rosie O'Donnell, but she kept fondling
the dancing girls, then eating
them.
SC: Enough. I can’t
take this anymore. Let’s move on to the present and Episode
III.
GL: Yes. We’re looking
at a May 2005 release for this one. Should be
great.
SC: There certainly is
a lot of anticipation for this one. What can we expect in this
final
chapter?
GL: Well, there’s going
to be a lot of surprises! For one, Alec Guinness will be
making a very special cameo in the
trailer.
SC: Awesome. I heard
about this. I think his voice edited into the
teaser will be
powerful.
GL: NO, you don’t
understand he's IN the
movie.
SC: But…he's been dead
for what, 5
years?!
GL: Haha, try telling
Alec that! Man, what a professional. I'm convinced it's all
just method. Bar the whole not having a pulse thing. Only like
2 people in the world can do that. But one is dead. I
think. Truth is. We'll never know. That's
acting!
SC: I think, if you
don't mind, I’m just going to change the subject
here for the sake of my sanity. Okay, then. Here's a hot
button issue amongst the fans. Do we actually witness Padmé
die in Episode III? A lot of people feel that she has to be
the catalyst for Anakin's turn to the Dark Side. While others
relay that Leia mentioned that she remembers her mother from a
young age, thus proving that she lived for at least several
years past Vader's
turn.
GL: Man! What a
fucking dork you are! How do you remember all
that shit? "Hi, I'm Padme! I'm dying! Please
don't turn all Evil, Anakin!". WAIT. Excuse me, I need to
jot this down. Forget what I just said. THAT SHIT IS
GOLD. Anyway, to answer your question, no, she doesn't
die, but she's pretty fucked
up.
SC: Nicely put. But how
so?
GL: How so?! You try
birthing someone (Luke) with that kind of force powers! During
delivery, Luke uses the "force push" and pretty much tears her
from ass 'til
breakfast!….
SC: Damn, George! Is
that
necessary?
GL: It looks just
like a JEDI's
SLEEVE!
SC: That's
disgusting.
GL: It's true! We don't
even need the Sarlacc. She can just kick off her pants and
we'll throw bounty hunters in there! I'm telling
you!
SC: Oh my god, George.
Seriously. Anyway, keeping with this topic of birth
and what not, in Episode 1, it is revealed that Anakin was
conceived without a father. Do we ever learn more about this?
I always thought it was cool the way you made the correlation
between Anakin's origins and the divine conception.
GL: Divine
whatnow? Do you even hear yourself talk? Haha. Anyway, I never
meant that Anakin never had a father, it’s quite the
opposite, really. You see, Shmi (Anakin’s mother) REALLY got
around. It could be ANYONE. She'd do just about anybody!
That's why she always looked so disheveled. You try
keeping up appearances when every trade-merchant and mercenary
from the four known quadrants use your nether-regions as their
own personal docking bay. Heck, even Watto tapped that
ass!
SC: That’s just
terrible.
GL:
Well, it’s the truth. What else is there to do out in the
desert? I just feel sorry for Cliegg down the road. He had no
idea what kind of damaged goods he was buying. One minute
you're drinking blue milk and minding your business, and the
next your shackled to a Harpy that puts out for all of Mos
Eisley.
SC: Dear, God.
Well, time us, who is Anakin’s father
then?
GL: Well, since I like
you, well, kind of, I’ll tell you…. Jar Jar is the
father.
SC: You got to be
shitting me. How is that
possible?
GL: Jar Jar is hung
like an elephant, that’s how "it’s possible". That's also how
he swims so fast. It cuts through the water like a
butter-knife through mashed
potatoes!
SC: Thanks a lot for
that
visual.
GL: No problem. And if
you think that's something, wait until you see the love scene
between Anakin and Padmé! We’re talking hardcore, full frontal
here. It's great stuff. That Padmé is a real Bantha in the
sack!
SC: Umm,
what?
GL: You know, I'm
cleverly exchanging the word 'minx' for an animal
that ties into my created universe. It's brilliant
and creative writing and it took me like only 2 minutes to
think up.
SC: (said under my
breath) Kind of like the plots of the last two
movies...
GL: What was
that?
SC: Umm, nothing.
You're right. It's awesome and really
deep.
GL: You should hear my
correlations between love and granules of sand in the desert
then! It'd bring a tear to your
eye.
SC: Yup. I have no
doubt I'd be crying. Destroying my childhood memories will do
that.
GL: Say
what?
SC: Nothing. umm, your
a genius or
something.
GL:
Thanks!
SC: No problem.
But back to the topic. Is putting such a graphic
sex scene in the movie really that
necessary?
GL: No, you
misunderstand. That part's not going to be in the movie. That
was just for me. But don't tell Natalie
Portman! Haha. I told her it was an art film called
"BLEW HARVEST". Sucker! Literally!
Ahem. Anyway, you see, we actually need to keep
a PG-13 rating, so during anything provocative, I'm going
to do quick cuts to a light saber comically going
back into its holster repeatedly, while we see Jar Jar
jump into frame, dance a little bit, and
then yell out "Mesa thinks he's gonna cum!" Everyone
should have a great laugh. It's comedy, you
see.
SC:
Jesus!
GL:
Yes?
SC: No, I meant, Jesus
Christ.
GL: Yes, and I answered
you.
SC: Wait. What's going
on here?
GL: I have no idea
anymore.
SC: That
makes two of us. Anyway, back on track; the big story in
this chapter is of course Anakin’s actual metamorphoses into
"Darth Vader" both physically and
spiritually.
GL: Who says? It's
about love, actually. The love that can only happen between a
director and a lot of
money.
SC:
What?
GL: Umm, I mean,
ya, you’ll see how he goes dark side. This I
promise.
SC: And how does that
happen? Is he tricked by Palpatine? Does he feel betrayed by
Obi Wan?
GL: It’s the dental
plan,
actually.
SC:
What?
GL: Listen. The Dude
fell into some fucking "Lava". The Darkside has full
medical coverage, the Jedi’s don’t. It’s pretty cut and
dry.
SC: That’s the dumbest
thing I've ever
heard.
GL: Well, what can you
do? It's my vision. And in my vision, Vader has the good sense
to go for full benefits. Plus, the Darkside gave him a far
better financial portfolio. He sunk a shitload of imperial
credits into Death Star Stock, and well, I don't think I need
to tell you that paid dividends for about two
decades.
SC: Yeah. Okay. Well,
what about Samuel L. Jackson? How does he buy it in this
movie?
GL: Well, as it turns
out, the day Anakin begins hunting down Jedi, Mace Windu has a
real spiritual conflict. He decides this is his last job, and
he's getting out of the killing racket altogether. Then he
gets held up by amateur thieves in a
diner....
SC: Wait. That sounds
really
familiar....
GL: And ya, there's
this really hilarious part where he's arguing with Yoda.
Yoda: "Going to
Dagobah, I
must."
Mace: "Say Dagobah again, Motherfucker! I dare
you! I double dog dare you!"
Yoda: "Dagobah my
saying?"
Mace: "Do they speak English on
Dagobah?"
Yoda: "umm, actually they don't speak any
language, because I'll be there in complete solitary
loneliness, you know, so the Darkside can't track me
down."
Mace: "Wait. Aren't you s'pose to talk that
backwards
shit?"
Yoda: "Holy shit, you're right. Ahem. Going to
Dagobah, I
am!"
Mace: "SAY DAGOBAH AGAIN,
MOTHERFUCKER!"
GL: This carries on for
like 35 minutes. It's tremendous writing. We're hearing Oscar
buzz
already.
SC: Really? How's that
possible?
GL: No, I mean, Frank
Oz, who plays Yoda. He's also Oscar on Sesame Street. He
really liked
it.
SC: Holy shit, I think
we should wrap this up. Tell us, what’s on tap for George
Lucas
next?
GL: Well, I’m actually
going to be filming another
prequel….
SC: ANOTHER
prequel?
GL: Yes. With the
success we anticipate with Episode III, we’ve decided to film
a mini-sequel that will bridge the gap between Episodes 3
and 4. It’s called: "Star Wars: Episode 3 ½ : Again with The
Jedis!?". It'll basically be a teenaged
Luke shooting Womp rats for 2 hours. You'll buy it and love
it. And buy
it.
SC: You said that part
already.
GL: No, I mean it.
You'll be buying it twice. I plan on re-releasing it
about 2 more times before
2008.
SC: Let's end
this already. Dear god. Have you ever thought about
breaking away from Star Wars altogether? Maybe trying your
hand at another genre? You know, so you're not pigeon-holed as
a
one-trick-pony?
GL: Funny you
should mention that. I *do* have something else on
the
horizon.
SC: Oh yeah? Great!
Tell us!
GL: Well, it’s a
sweeping saga, kind of in the mold of the 1930’s serials;
it'll see a young wide-eyed farm-boy plucked from his boring
existence and thrust into the middle of a full scale rebellion
against an oppressive dictatorship! He'll have a wise mentor
and in the end he'll learn of the deep dark secret of his
parentage!… It should really be
something!
SC: Umm,
George?….
GL:
Yes?
SC: Forget it. We're
done.
GL: (Waving his hand
again). Leave your wallet on the side table on your way
out...
SC: George. It won't
work.
GL: You
sure?
SC: I'm pretty
sure.
GL:
Shit.
I'm
Sean.
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